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Why Do We Like Sad Music? | Sandra Garrido | TEDxYouth@Sydney

Translator: A. Bentahar
Reviewer: Julie Quynh Nguyen If you are an human being,
chances are, one of your primary aims in life 
is to maximise your happiness. I did a quick search of Google books
before I came here, I have found an astounding two and an half
million books on the subject of happiness. When we are so interested in happiness, and we do everything 
that we can in daily life to avoid things that make us feel sad, why is it? When it comes to music we actually
seem to enjoy feeling sad. I will give you an example. (Music: piano introduction of 
"Someone Like You", Adele) (Laughter) So that of course is a song that
flew to the top of the charts within weeks of its release and it is known and loved
by millions of people all around the world. So why is it that songs 
like these are so popular? Why is it that we seem to enjoy
feeling sad when we are listening to music? Well, that was the question
that I set out to find the answer to, and along with my colleagues, we've interviewed probably 
thousands of people about why they are enjoying music 
like this. We've also surveyed people and try to find out in-depth reasons about how people use music like this
in their daily lives. And we've also done experiments where
we've actually played sad music to people and then measure the effects on them. And what we actually found is
that there is no single reason, there is no single answer 
to that question of why people like sad music. I'll give you some examples of the kind of
thinks that we've found out. Firstly, some people have 
a really strong capacity for absorption, or the ability to get so immersed
in what they're doing that they completely lose track of time
and the sense of where they are. This kind of people seem to be able to just really enjoy 
the emotional journey of the music, and they don't experience any displeasure
in the way that you would, if it was sadness triggered 
by real life events. Another group of people are able to
use the time listening to sad music to reflect on their own lives. I mean if you think about it, sadness is actually an adaptive emotion
from an evolutionary perspective. It motivates us to think about our lives and think about things
that might need changes and motivates us to make those changes. So people who have strong capacities to 
reflection, the very reflective people, they seem to have the ability
to actually use the time when they are listening to sad music to process emotions
that they might be going through and to think about how they can address 
the problems that might be triggering sadness in them. Some of the additional psychological 
benefits they might get are catharsis or being able to just get rid of 
all those pent-up emotions that are building up, and sometimes people are able to get
a really nice feeling from the music that they are not alone
in what they are experiencing, a nice feeling
that they are other people out there who understand how they feel. So these are the types of
psychological benefits that reflective people seem to be able
to get from listening to sad music. But I said that sadness is an adaptive
emotion and like all adaptive systems,
things can go wrong. Mood disorders like depression are 
an example of how systems break down. By its really definition, depression involves an impaired capacity
to regulate one's own moods and emotions. So for people with tendencies
to depression, often negative emotions are more easily
triggered in them, so it only takes a very small thing
to make them feel bad, in comparison to other people, and then it is much more difficult
for them often to break out of those bad feelings, that it might be for somebody else. And this is all related to a tendency 
called rumination, and rumination is that thing that happens
sometimes where you get, your mind gets stuck in
these cycles of negative thinking. It is largely involuntary, and this is something 
that happens to people who have a tendency to depression. So what that often happens with
these people is they start out
with the same rational intentions as the reflective person. They think:
"if I listen to this piece of music, it is going to help me get 
all those emotions of my chest or, really think through my problems." But instead of helping them
to work through their emotions and come out the other side, it can actually just perpetuate
those cycles of negative thinking. This is what happens 
when we do experiments with people. So, you can see the bottom line, these are the people who have
high scores in rumination, and you can see that they start out
the experiment with much lower mood levels 
than other people. So they are more depressed than
other people at the beginning of the experiment. We then play them a piece of sad music, and their depression levels 
really increase, their mood level drop, and they are much more depressed. For the people who are low ruminatists, that happens also,
they get a little bit sad. But that is probably just a minor blip
in their day and they recover from it quite quickly. But if you already at this clinical
levels of major depression, and then you mood goes even lower
as a result of a piece of music, that can really be quite 
a dangerous situation. Of course, ethically, we can't do that
to our participants, and then leave them feeling like that. So we always ask them to listen to
a piece of a happy music, at the end of the experiment. And what we found to our surprise
is that their mood levels go right up. In fact, they are feeling much better 
after listening to a piece of music than they were
when they arrived to do the experiment. So that tends to suggest that even though we might really feel like
pulling out a piece of sad music when we are feeling a bit down, for some people, 
it is not always the best option. So, what does all this tell us
about why we listen to sad music, well basically there is no single answer
we do it for a variety of reasons. Some people just enjoy being 
very immersed in the music and there is no negative consequences. Other people are able to obtain 
some important psychological benefits from listening to music, that really are good for them. For a minority of people, it may actually make them feel
more depressed. So how can we use music effectively, to improve your mood if we're feeling
a bit down? With a the good thing about music is, it can help you to really feel 
your emotions, to really sit with 
what is going on inside you, and to think about, maybe some strategies
you could develop for coping better with what is going on, or some changes that you may need
to make in your life. But ultimately if you find 
that process is going on for too long, and that it is very difficult 
to break out of that process for you, it might be a suggestion 
that it is a good idea to obtain some professional help. And if you are in that situation, be a little bit careful about 
the kind of music that you listen to. You don't have to break out 
the party music ; a lot of our participants say: "I couldn't possibly listen
to Pharrell Williams when I am feeling so down." But you can listen to something 
that is a little bit inspiring, something that connects you to a time in your life when you felt good
about yourself or with some really happy memories, or something with a message, that will reinvigorate you to carry on. Thank you. (Applause)